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Is it just me or has modding gotten easier? I managed to install four different Skyrim mods this morning without a single crash, which is basically a miracle by my standards. Anyone else finding that Vortex and Wabbajack have made things way more man

Matthew Jones

Matthew Jones

4 months ago

Opening thread commentary.

Rowan Scott

Rowan Scott

4 months ago

honestly it's been a huge difference for me too — i used to spend half my sunday just fighting with load orders and trying to figure out what was causing crashes, now vortex handles most of that automatically and wabbajack literally installs entire modlists in one click. not the same as building your own custom setup from scratch but it's definitely a godsend when you just want to

Rowan Scott

Rowan Scott

4 months ago

For real -- I used to spend like three hours just troubleshooting load order conflicts before I even got to the actual fun stuff. The automated installers have been a game changer. Wabbajack in particular made it ridiculously easy to get those big modlists running without manually hunting down every prerequisite, which was always where things went sideways for me.

Zoey Hill

Zoey Hill

4 months ago

Yeah totally, mod managers make a world of difference compared to what it used to be like back when you had to manually sort everything into your Skyrim folder and hope for the best — though honestly even Vortex can still be finicky sometimes, I always have at least one load order conflict that takes about twenty minutes to figure out. It reminds me of this time in college when my roommate tried to install a mod pack without any manager whatsoever just because he thought it would be faster and ended up bricking his entire save file — we spent basically an entire weekend trying to recover the character progression which was like forty hours of gameplay lost, and I still can't believe how naive that was. It makes me think about how much technology has changed in terms of what people are willing to trust vs manage themselves -- my dad used to rebuild his whole PC every time a software update broke something because he didn't understand the underlying file structure, which is basically what modding WAS before Wabbajack came along and did all the heavy lifting for you. It's wild how tools like these democratize complicated hobbies that would have been gated behind technical knowledge five years ago. Anyway sorry for tangent but it makes me appreciate Vortex a lot more now than I probably should

Zoey Hill

Zoey Hill

4 months ago

Yeah vortex has been solid but honestly i used to spend hours building launchers and now its basically drag-and-drop, which is wild because i remember 2014 modding where one wrong plugin order meant a purple screen of death and you'd have to restart from scratch — I actually had this one playthrough in the original Skyrim around that time where i tried to install an overhaul patch for riverwood at the same time as a texture pack and it just bricked everything, took me like three hours to figure out which file was causing the conflict because back then there wasn't any auto-detection of conflicts across different mod types and I ended up having to delete every single save game too. That was infuriating because i had this character build going on for months with a specific gear progression that just vanished, and my brother told me about this time he tried to do the same thing but his whole computer wouldn't boot into windows after a bad install of a script extender — apparently he had to use an old version from a backup drive because he hadn't backed up his system partition in like years. It makes you realize how much we take for granted with modern mod managers since vortex handles load order automatically now and the conflict detection is actually useful rather than just decorative, which was never really the case with MO2 back in its early days even though that has a die-hard following because some people still prefer manual organization over automated. But yeah you're definitely not alone on this — i installed about twelve mods last night for Fallout New Vegas and managed to get past the first 30 minutes without any scripting errors which would have been impossible five years ago

William Stewart

William Stewart

3 months ago

Honestly modding has gotten so much easier but I still think there's a limit before it becomes a problem and what I mean by that is my friend Mike who tried to install like thirty mods on his Steam Deck last summer — yeah the one with the green snake tattoo he always wears -- and his whole system bricked because he was trying to run high-res texture packs on a handheld device which obviously wasn't gonna work but here's the thing about Vortex specifically that I think people underestimate. It handles load orders dynamically so if you have two mods fighting over the same asset it actually flags the conflict instead of just letting the game crash, which was never an option in the old days when we were all manually sorting plugin lists at 2 AM drinking energy drinks and praying to a god that didn't exist -- I remember one time my brother tried this with Fallout New Vegas and he ended up deleting his entire Windows installation because he thought reformatting would fix it. Anyway, yeah Wabbajack is amazing for the automated script builds but if you want full control Vortex wins and honestly most people don't need to know all that they just want their dragons to wear hats without their game turning into a slideshow at 5 FPS.

Dakota Gonzalez

Dakota Gonzalez

3 months ago

I've noticed this too, which is weird because I used to spend half my Saturday just resolving master file conflicts and fixing load order issues. What changed for me was switching over to Vortex entirely — it handles the plugin sorting automatically based on popularity

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